Nice to see a timeline like this on all the doctrinal changes. I might contact you later to get contact you later to get the excel version once I get a new computer or get excel back on this one.
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TTATT in a Can... finally finished!!
by ILoveTTATT inok so... how to condense all the flip-flops and doctrinal changes, and show graphically how the different doctrines changed, and when?.
ttatt in a can!!.
enjoy ;).
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10 Pragmatic facts why Jehovah's Witnesses can't face reality
by Terry in1.the organization itself denies access to reality and substitutes its own version, interpretations and meanings.. a.only watchtower approved publications are allowed.. b.no higher education is to be pursued.. c.no non-jw friends or associations are encouraged with their "outside" points of view.. d.no free-style questioning of doctrine or criticism permitted.
curiousity is verboten.. e.threat of being "marked" or disassociated looms over them.
2.between every real-world event and the rank and file jw's mind is a roadblock.. a.the moment of identifying is short-circuited by an interpretive moment of re-labeling in watchtower-speak.. b.all things happening are forced into a narrow storyline and propagandized as end times happenings leading to armageddon.. 3.social and personal identity is expunged and replaced by a collective persona: "jehovah's witness".. a.private thinking is red-flagged as selfish and sinful.. b.personal improvement, welfare and ambition is crushed and door-to-door ministry substituted as "worthy" endeavors.. c.self-conscious obsession permeates witness awareness as each person is transformed into a public spectacle of performance for judgement.. d.since you aren't an individual you don't really have a right to fall in love and marry or educate or earn.
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Great post. Will read it again when I have time later today.
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"Keep Doing This In Remembrance Of Me"...keep doing what???
by minimus inif a witness tells you that jesus commanded you to go to the memorial, how would you respond?.
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I would have to ask them when it is. I have no clue. Is it tonight? I suspect it is because my wife is going to the KH tonight.
I would also tell them. "You won't go to church with me. Why should I go to your church" And like the above post I would tell then there is nothing in the Bible that commands anyone to go to a KH on a certain day once a year and snub his offer.
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10 Reasons You Should Never Have A Religion
by darth frosty inlink.
his 1st point reminded me of this argument.
link.
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Watching the first video. Very interesting. Worth watching.
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Retirement complex for older JW's to be built
by moomanchu inthis is literally almost in my backyard.. they are using a local contractor, not jw volunteers.. http://www.mcall.com/business/mc-jehova-witness-retirement-home-20140205,0,2445692.story.
21 f. thursday, feb. 6, 20146:49 am est .
retirement complex for jehovah's witnesses in salisbury townshipnine-month project to employ workers from 20 trades.
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So what happens if someone living there wakes up to the truth and leaves the Watchtower? Or JW's spouse dies and the remaining JW marries a non JW then the JW dies and the non JW spouse moves another non JW in? I don't see how they can force someone to move on the basis of what they believe or don't believe.
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Pioneer Encouragement - "You can sit in the back room"
by 4thgen inlast night one of the pioneers stopped by on her way home from the pioneer meeting.
she has always been very kind and i believe she is acted out of concern, however her visit was unsettling.
she mentioned that all the pioneers were counseled to invite everyone they know inactive or those who has had life has got them down to come to (a special?
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“You know Satan has been so busy. It doesn’t seem to be physical lately, but all mental issues. Many of the friends are having so much anxiety and depression it is unbelievable”
I wish that there were a way to get them to see that it isn't Satan that is making them depressed. It's being a Jehovah's Witness that is depressing them.
They are part of an organization that bullies and forces them to believe every thing that they say even though they never get anything right.
It has been 100 years since 1914. The year they claim Christ returned yet nothing has happened. The generation that wouldn't pass away did. They waste their time going door to door peddling a stale message that almost no one is interested in. They waste their evenings and weekends going boring meetings listening to the same old crap year after year. They are on a pointless religious treadmill and don't seem to know how break free of it yet they try to suck others back into their sad situation. Mind control at its finest.
You stump them when they find you well and happy. They have been told that shouldn't be the case.
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Awake October 8 1972 False Alarm About "Peace and Security"
by scotoma inthe watchtower study yesterday made it clear that the cry of peace and security has not occurred yet.. what they don't mention is their false alarm that they falsely pointed to events in 1972 as the cry of peace and security.
that was 42 years ago.. they did this with a special awake in october of 1972. they devoted the full issue to the subject.
it rivals the infamous "is it later than you think" special awake of october 8 1968 in its grandiose predictions.. the october 8 issue of awake 1972 is must reading in view of the latest discussion of peace and security.. here are a few exerpts with the grandiose statements in red.
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If I remember correctly there was also some sort of peace and securtity book that came out around that time and also some last minute (just before the end of the world) special tract work being carried out in earnest at that time. And here we are forty plus years later.
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Do you feel guilty?
by Justmenthedogs inso while i was out hiking with the dogs today i got to thinking about this forum and was wondering how many of you still feel guilty from time to time for leaving?
i do, i miss my family at times but then i think about the life that i have created and i have a good one, i have good friends and i am happy, happier then i ever was as a jw.
i was just wondering if others feel the same way sometimes..
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I don't feel the least bit guilty. Actually I feel very greatful that I got out when I did while I was still young and had the time to make a better life for myself rather than wasting decades of my life selling books and magazine for a religious cult waiting for the end of the world that never came.
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Blood issue - widower pressing charges
by Gypsy Sam inhttp://www.bellanaija.com/2013/01/08/woman-dies-after-jehovah-witness-family-refused-her-accepting-blood-transfusion-widower-to-press-charges-against-wifes-family/.
i feel bad for the hubby..
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If the family lost the case and it cost them all they had financially defending their Watchtower based beliefs no doubt the Watchtower would come to their rescue and get them back on their feet. Yeah right. The Watchtower would reward their loyalty by letting them go down just like that poor man's wife. It is really sad that these misguided people will die or let others die for an organization that couldn't give a you know what about them.
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The 100th anniversay of Christs return just around the corner.
by I quit! injust wondering what everyone is doing to celebrate the 100th anniversay of christ's return..
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I went back and read the that post and the related ones wearewatchingyou. OMG How confusing is that. I think you could asked 6 jws about this subject and get 6 different answers. If he didn't come back in 1914 and select them in 1919 then all those years they have been peddling a lie. What has been the point of it all.
If you were a devoted JW wouldn't you be a little upset over all the years you've spent proclaim a false message. Wouldn't you feel like asking the Watchtower: What is the point of me spending my life proclaiming this sh#t as the truth if your just going to change it? Shouldn't you wait till you're sure you've got something right before you ask people go out and to spread your message around? And shouldn't we wait till we if God selects you before we put all a eggs in one basket and follow you?
To me it seems like they just canceled their own authority with this change.